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	<title>Comments on: Lies and False &quot;Facts&quot; Still Circulating about HB 1332. Know the Truth!</title>
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		<title>By: stacey</title>
		<link>http://www.okhumane.org/dogs/lies-false-facts-circulating-hb-1332-truth#comment-99</link>
		<dc:creator>stacey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 02:14:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I DONT THINK YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO COME ON TO MY PROPERY AND FIND WHAT EVER AND TAKE WHAT IS MINE AWAY I WORK HARD FOR WHAT I GOT. I THINK THE WAY USDA DOES IT IS RIGHT 1 2 3 CHANCES TO GET IT RIGHT NOT 1 STRICK YOUR OUT THATS NOT RIGHT TO THE PEOPLE THAT TRYING TO DO IT RIGHT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I DONT THINK YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO COME ON TO MY PROPERY AND FIND WHAT EVER AND TAKE WHAT IS MINE AWAY I WORK HARD FOR WHAT I GOT. I THINK THE WAY USDA DOES IT IS RIGHT 1 2 3 CHANCES TO GET IT RIGHT NOT 1 STRICK YOUR OUT THATS NOT RIGHT TO THE PEOPLE THAT TRYING TO DO IT RIGHT.</p>
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		<title>By: stacey</title>
		<link>http://www.okhumane.org/dogs/lies-false-facts-circulating-hb-1332-truth#comment-98</link>
		<dc:creator>stacey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 02:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I THINK YOU SHOULD HAVE RULES ON ANIMALS YES PUPPIES MILLS ARE WRONG THEY SHOULD BE STOPED! BUT IF YOU ARE LIC. THOUGH USDA I THINK YOU SHOULD BE OK TO BREED DOGS BEACUSE YOU ARE PROBERLY DOING IT RIGHT YOU ARE TREATING YOUR DOGS RIGHT I BRING MINE IN MY HOUSE. I ONLY HAVE A FEW TAKEING THAT FROM OKLAHOMA WILL HURT US ECOMNY WILL BE DEVESTATED EVEN MORE THEN IT IS THERE ISENT ENOUGH JOBS OUT THERE TO GET NOTHING TO SUPPORT A FAMILY I KNOW THIS I WORK TOO. I THINK THERE SHOULD BE LAWS TO PREVENT PUPPY MILL BUT I THINK ITS GOING TOO FAR I DONT THINK YOU SHOULD BE REQUIRED TO GET A LIC. FOR EACH STATE YOU WANT TO SELL TO OR FOR THE BUYER TO HAVE TO GET ONE NO ONE WILL BUY DOGS IT&#039;LL COST TO MUCH. ITS ALSO GOING TO HUST ARE SHOWS ARE TRAINERS FOR HUNTING DOGS THIS IS JUST TO FAR TOOKEN!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I THINK YOU SHOULD HAVE RULES ON ANIMALS YES PUPPIES MILLS ARE WRONG THEY SHOULD BE STOPED! BUT IF YOU ARE LIC. THOUGH USDA I THINK YOU SHOULD BE OK TO BREED DOGS BEACUSE YOU ARE PROBERLY DOING IT RIGHT YOU ARE TREATING YOUR DOGS RIGHT I BRING MINE IN MY HOUSE. I ONLY HAVE A FEW TAKEING THAT FROM OKLAHOMA WILL HURT US ECOMNY WILL BE DEVESTATED EVEN MORE THEN IT IS THERE ISENT ENOUGH JOBS OUT THERE TO GET NOTHING TO SUPPORT A FAMILY I KNOW THIS I WORK TOO. I THINK THERE SHOULD BE LAWS TO PREVENT PUPPY MILL BUT I THINK ITS GOING TOO FAR I DONT THINK YOU SHOULD BE REQUIRED TO GET A LIC. FOR EACH STATE YOU WANT TO SELL TO OR FOR THE BUYER TO HAVE TO GET ONE NO ONE WILL BUY DOGS IT&#8217;LL COST TO MUCH. ITS ALSO GOING TO HUST ARE SHOWS ARE TRAINERS FOR HUNTING DOGS THIS IS JUST TO FAR TOOKEN!</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.okhumane.org/dogs/lies-false-facts-circulating-hb-1332-truth#comment-97</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 00:06:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ann,

Bills are often written in vague language, because the executive and judicial branches of government are tasked with the responsibility of interpreting laws--the legislators just write them!  So this is not spelled out in the bill.

But what I can tell you from hearing this very question asked of the author of the bill is that &quot;under the supervision of a vet&quot; simply means that at some point the animal will see a vet. Many rescue groups and breeders vaccinate, deworm, etc. their animals and purchase those medications at much lower cost than they would be able to do if they obtained those services from a vet.

Sometimes, a rescue animal might not even see a vet, other than to get a rabies vaccination and be altered, if it&#039;s healthy.  Reputable breeders have puppies checked out by a vet and most probably do vaccinations on their own.

Irresponsible breeders, puppy mills--the targets of this bill--animals in their care may never see a vet.  This is another way that they&#039;d be in violation of this bill (law if it were passed), and the State dept. of agriculture could take action. As it is now, there is nothing illegal about not providing health care to animals (unless it gets to the point of cruelty--and why wait for it to get that bad?).

In short, if you&#039;re a breeder or a rescue worker, you can absolutely still do those routine vaccinations, deworming, even general antibiotics, etc. that you are able to do now because of the experience and knowledge you have.  Other medicines that require a diagnosis by a veterinarian, or vaccines (Rabies) and controlled substances that can only be given by a vet, would still have to be obtained through a licensed vet, just as they are now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ann,</p>
<p>Bills are often written in vague language, because the executive and judicial branches of government are tasked with the responsibility of interpreting laws&#8211;the legislators just write them!  So this is not spelled out in the bill.</p>
<p>But what I can tell you from hearing this very question asked of the author of the bill is that &#8220;under the supervision of a vet&#8221; simply means that at some point the animal will see a vet. Many rescue groups and breeders vaccinate, deworm, etc. their animals and purchase those medications at much lower cost than they would be able to do if they obtained those services from a vet.</p>
<p>Sometimes, a rescue animal might not even see a vet, other than to get a rabies vaccination and be altered, if it&#8217;s healthy.  Reputable breeders have puppies checked out by a vet and most probably do vaccinations on their own.</p>
<p>Irresponsible breeders, puppy mills&#8211;the targets of this bill&#8211;animals in their care may never see a vet.  This is another way that they&#8217;d be in violation of this bill (law if it were passed), and the State dept. of agriculture could take action. As it is now, there is nothing illegal about not providing health care to animals (unless it gets to the point of cruelty&#8211;and why wait for it to get that bad?).</p>
<p>In short, if you&#8217;re a breeder or a rescue worker, you can absolutely still do those routine vaccinations, deworming, even general antibiotics, etc. that you are able to do now because of the experience and knowledge you have.  Other medicines that require a diagnosis by a veterinarian, or vaccines (Rabies) and controlled substances that can only be given by a vet, would still have to be obtained through a licensed vet, just as they are now.</p>
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		<title>By: Ann Kent</title>
		<link>http://www.okhumane.org/dogs/lies-false-facts-circulating-hb-1332-truth#comment-96</link>
		<dc:creator>Ann Kent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 21:09:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m confused about one aspect of HB 1332.  It states that deworming and vaccinating would have to be under supervision of a vet( where as most people can do it themselves at present time.)  Would that be an extra cost?  It seems as if vet bills are so expensive as it is, because of extra requirements on prescriptions.  I really agree with most of the bill except maybe this aspect of it.  Since prescriptions are so expensive now, a lot of people do without for their animals.   I&#039;m wondering if that could be one reason breeders also are opposing this bill.  Please clarify.  It seems like there may be a hidden cost that the creator of the bill didn&#039;t really specify.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m confused about one aspect of HB 1332.  It states that deworming and vaccinating would have to be under supervision of a vet( where as most people can do it themselves at present time.)  Would that be an extra cost?  It seems as if vet bills are so expensive as it is, because of extra requirements on prescriptions.  I really agree with most of the bill except maybe this aspect of it.  Since prescriptions are so expensive now, a lot of people do without for their animals.   I&#8217;m wondering if that could be one reason breeders also are opposing this bill.  Please clarify.  It seems like there may be a hidden cost that the creator of the bill didn&#8217;t really specify.</p>
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